In the Last Six Weeks Since Our Last Newsletter We have been Extremely Busy

New Counseling Requests

Among the Inquiries received recently include requests from the city of North Pole, Alaska and the United Kingdom.

April 21st Wednesday Evening Training

Event in Australia

I spoke at the 7:00pm Wednesday evening Bible Study at a church near Melbourne, Australia on the subjects of Demonization and the Born-Again Believer, and Biblical Brokenheartedness.

Now bear in mind that they are 14 hours ahead of us. So I was online on Zoom at 5am on Wednesday morning speaking to a group of believers in their 7pm Wednesday evening service. When counseling with individuals in New Zealand and Australia I generally meet at 5pm which is 7am the next day down under. I never would have thought 20 years ago that I would be able to do counseling anywhere in the world from my office and even be counseling “tomorrow” today. Scheduling time zone differences is interesting and at times can be confusing.

Our Training Material on Spiritual Warfare Being Used to Prepare a Missionary Group Working with Aboriginal Australian Groups in the North of the Country.

A few years ago I taught a one day seminar at Gateway Community Church (SBC) in Titusville, Florida which was video and audio taped. A good friend of the Center for Christian Counseling then spent much time and effort preparing six hours of professional looking videos for training purposes. (Appreciate you T.H.). I had sent a set of those videos to a church in Australia who then shared them with a missionary team getting ready to work with

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an Aboriginal Australian group in the north part of the country. We are so happy to have these videos and to be able to make them available to individuals, churches, and mission groups around the world. The titles include:

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.  Eph. 6:12. (are you prepared?)

A Personal Note from

Roger & Diane

On May 11, I went through total hip replacement. I must say it had its moments. The spinal block had no effect so I had to resort to some strong pain meds to get some relief and found myself “half loopy. I had to cancel all counselees for a period of time. Started physical therapy at home which is going well but right now still on a walker as transition to a cane will take a little longer due to balance problems relating to my bad feet. Will appreciate your continued prayers as I have a fairly busy schedule in counseling coming up, want to get transitioned over to a cane ASAP, and  plan on being back in Church next Sunday filling in for one of the  Sunday School teachers. So much coming up and I would like to meet the challenges successfully. I also want to thank Diane for walking with me through this as well as our prayer and financial partners, You are all so appreciated.

We are looking forward to having family visit with us this summer. As all grandparents know, it’s one thing to talk to them on the phone or FaceTime, but it is quite another thing to have them in the home laughing and just having fun. It’s a time to feel young and kinda act stupid (not that I would ever do something that was just plain…, well you know.)

So my prayer is that each and everyone of you will have a blessed, enjoyable, productive, and great summer, and enjoy your families as best you can. And for our farming friends, we pray that our blessed Lord will grant you a great growing season and plentiful harvest.

God bless you all,

Last Six Weeks have been Extremely Busy

But now realize it was the wrong kind of help. I believe God will heal each “piece/personality individually so that eventually I can feel and act whole again. Will you please help me with this.”

From Florida

A request from a parent to evaluate a 14 year old boy who they believe is demonized and may have multiple personalities.

From Minnesota

“I found your website when I was searching for help with my Dissociative Identity Disorder (multiple        personalities / biblical brokenheartedness) which I have struggled with for many years. I have attached a    completed registration form and am hopeful that you have an opening to counsel me.  My sessions would need to be online because I live in Minnesota. I am hoping I can qualify for your sliding scale fee. (we    never turn anyone away due to inability to pay thanks to our financial partners.)

From Colorado

“My son is suffering from multiple personalities and I realize the only person who can help him at this point is our blessed Lord Jesus. I believe if there is no         miraculous intervention in my son’s life that he will commit suicide. The stress of him living with me is   intolerable. He says if I send him to a mental institution again he will definitely take his life. He has had no help there. My son is so thin and pale. He is not eating and

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I fear for his physical health. He only wants to die and does not care about anything or anyone. He now     reports that he does not believe in the gospel or eternal Hell. You sent me a prayer for possible demonic    bondage, and I am so grateful for it. Would you be   willing to help him further with counseling?”

And a “Thank You”

“Thank you for our session today. You are God sent to me. As we go along, I see the Lord confirming some of my thoughts and intuitions that I had over the years. I am praying that the Lord would set my wife free from the heavy religious spirits and others that plague her.”

A Personal Note from Roger & Diane

We are doing well. In mid February we spent a couple days over a long weekend in Talladega with Julie and family. Then we had friends visiting for a couple nights from east  Georgia. We always enjoy  having family and friends     visiting. Then  the first part of last week Julie, Kye and Jackson were visiting for about five days. I had the   opportunity to continue to go driving with 15 year old Jackson. He has only had his temporary license for a few weeks and needed to get some practice so this time I  took him out on Interstate 20 to have that experience. He is doing well and should be a good driver.

Diane and I are in fair health. We both are experiencing some old age aches and pains and I am going to be having my left hip replaced soon. I have been told that the hip replacement is now outpatient surgery. How times have changed!

One more great-grand child added to the list this past weekend. Little Riley Ann weighed in at 5# 12ozs. She is grandson Blake and Maria’s daughter.

I had the privilege of marrying the two of them last year.

It was at a marriage   venue and as you can see, Blake’s dog walked down the aisle with the wedding party.

We are so proud of all our children, grand-

children and great-grand- children. Family are a blessing from the Lord. I just wish we could see all our family on a more regular schedule, but then, distance is a big factor.

To Jesus be All Glory!

A Call from a Youth Pastor in a Spiritual Battle

I received an e-mail from a youth pastor recently asking if I was Roger, the one talked about in the book by Chad Norris, a Baptist minister. I was not aware of his book but I did remember a visit he and his wife made to our office while we were still in Florida several years ago. 

Responding in the affirmative the individual quickly sent in the Center’s intake forms so that he could start counseling. It caused me to wonder what books are out there that we are mentioned in and what Chad Norris had said about his encounter with us. So here are the books I am aware of at this time:

Out of the Ashes — A Forged Faith Journey in Confronting and Overcoming Evil.
By: Hannah S. Brown

Deliverance to Destiny — The Split Child out of Darkness into Light.      
By: Sharon Ganz

Signs, Wonders and a Baptist Preacher — How Jesus Flipped My World Upside Down. 
By: Chad Norris

Mama Janes’ Secret — Walking in Deep Fellowship with Jesus.
By: Chad Norris

As is pointed out in these books,   Jesus is the Wonderful Counselor  and He is amazing when He counsels.

The following are excerpts from the Book “Signs, Wonders and a Baptist Preacher”  by Chad Norris

My problems were not just physical and emotional…I was also going through a season of spiritual warfare…I was learning more about the spiritual realm, and that included the enemy attacks. Among other nightmares, I could sense that our house had a dark presence in it….the spiritual  battle seemed to have no answers. I did not know of a single church that I could go to for help. Can you imagine walking up to a pastor and saying, “Pastor, a presence of evil is living in our house. Could you come take a look?”  Me, either.

But then something happened for Wendy and me that changed everything. In a random encounter at an event at which I was speaking, I met a woman who gave me her dad’s business card. He was a counselor in Titusville, Florida, and he understood spiritual attacks. So Wendy and I drove nine hours to seek Roger’s help. Desperation, as I said earlier, does not seem to move God, but it sure will move a person.

When we arrived at Roger’s office, I was on the edge of sliding out of touch with reality. I had loved Jesus most of my life, but I could not explain why I was going through what I was going through, I was scared.

I kept thinking, How pathetic is it that I have to drive all of this way to meet with someone because I can’t   figure out what is going on with me? I had had some rough spots with Jesus but this was one of the      toughest.

Roger welcomes my wife (who was now eight months pregnant) and me into his office. He then explained that he was going to invite Jesus to help us during the next three hours. I know, novel concept. We prayed through various things in my past that I told him about, and then it happened. Roger was leading me in a prayer, when out of nowhere Jesus walked up to me in a vision and said, “I’m your Healer; trust me.”

This was not an impression or a mental image; I was seeing Him. I had never heard of anything like this before. Jesus was about 5-foot-11 and 180 pounds. He had light brown hair, a light beard and wore a white tunic. Angels stood on either side of Him.

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One of them had a huge sword and the other did not….As He looked at me, His eyes pierced through me with violent gentleness. It was overpowering. It is a waste of time to try to describe what His love was like. I simply cannot.

But what I am telling you is true. I saw Jesus that day. If you want to chuck this book in the trash, I understand. I have always been skeptical when people write about things like this. Yet, it happened.

And it was not only that I saw Him; Jesus came to me and held me close. I have never felt love like that in my life. I hit the floor. My wife, alarmed, asked, “What happened?” It was a while before I could speak.

If at this point you think I was crazy, I understand. I thought I was crazy, too. But it happened. I have been reluctant to talk about that day too much because I thought  people would find it hard to believe. I never want to come across as an idiot. So I decided it was best to keep my mouth shut about the encounter. I was not at a worship service. I was not caught up in some glory cloud. I was a conservative type of guy with a health problem. I was a Baptist to the core who secretly never wanted to walk out on the waters of anything that would draw attention.

Yet in that one moment, everything changed in me. I cannot tell you how many times I prayed to Jesus: “Wreck me with who You are. I want all of You. Show me who You are.” I know I never expected Jesus to answer those prayers of mine like that. Yet Jesus Christ of Nazareth walked up to me in an open vision. That was way out of my comprehension. I had no paradigm for it.

I have heard many times, “Don’t be so heavenly minded that you are no earthly good.” It might be truer that we are so earthly minded that heaven has a hard time doing much good through us.

I have been asking the Lord to get me to a place in my life where I can live consistently with one ear there and one here. In Roger’s office that day, I discovered that that is the only way to live.

When I saw the Lord, His love knocked me out of my chair. It was not a handshake love. It was a messy, wild, compassionate, deep perfect love. It was the kind of love that makes you not care what anyone else in the world thinks of you. Because of that experience, I can see why the early Christians laughed as Nero burned them at the stake. They had such revelation of the love of God that they did not care even about death. When I say I felt love, it is an understatement. All I could say to Wendy, when I could speak, was, “He is so full of love.”

Ten years later I can still picture Him the way He looked that day. As I mentioned, I have told this story only rarely. A few weeks ago, I was talking about these events from the stage of our church, including the warfare details, and a man got up and took his three kids out of the service. He will probably never come back to our church.

Maybe part of the reason that stories like this are hard to comprehend is that so many individuals have been manipulated in the name of Jesus. Perhaps it is also because people know Jesus from a historical standpoint rather than as a present-tense Savior.

To Jesus be All Glory!

Celebrating 23 Years of World Wide Christian Counseling Ministry

23 years ago this month the Center for Christian Counseling began operating in Huron, South Dakota. Since that time we have moved the ministry office to Florida then to our current location in Dallas, Georgia. In those 23 years, thanks to the Lord Jesus who is our wonderful  counselor, and to you our prayer and financial partners who have played a vital role in the Center’s success, we have ministered in 19 countries (Dubai, Cameroon, N. Vietnam, Astonia, Canada, Venezuela, Brazil, Chili,  Cuba, Dominican Republic, Hungary, Belgium, England, Australia, Italy, New Zealand, Panama, Haiti,) and 25 states as shown in the maps above. Thank you all for your continuing prayer and financial support, you are a blessing.

The Book Written by a Former Counselee Detailing her Experiences During Four Years of Counseling here at the Center is Complete and Published

The book is titled “Deliverance to Destiny—The Split Child Out of Darkness into Light.” by: Sharon Ganz. It has been published through Lulu and contains 159 pages and will be available online & bookstores shortly.

 In my forward I wrote: “This book is ALL ABOUT JESUS and is important as it delves into the darkness of Satanic Ritual Abuse and biblical brokenheartedness… Many events described in the following pages may be difficult to accept, even though they are      happening all over our country, whether we choose to believe the reality or not.”

During the counseling we all interacted together, the author, her alternate personalities, and the Lord Jesus, The Wonderful Counselor. I considered myself as a facilitator as Jesus worked step by step through the counseling to bring healing and complete integration with the interactions of Jesus well documented throughout the book. Believe it!  It happened!

On a Personal Note

Diane and I are doing well and staying busy.

September was a busy month. We began the month with a weeklong visit from daughter Melissa and    granddaughter Madelyn from Dayton, Ohio. We had a great time.

Then over Labor Day weekend daughter Julie was visiting and as they were getting ready to leave to  return home to Talladega, Alabama, being the “great” father that I am, I decided to take her car up to the service station to get it filled with gas. Well, let’s just say that I customized one of those boxy mail trucks. Yep, had an accident, but it was not major and she was able to drive to Talladega later that day after the police and I had a little discussion. And, he was nice enough to give me a little piece of paper.

On the 11th we drove out to Talladega to attend a High School football game Jackson was playing in.

During September I had the privilege of preaching three Sundays at our home church, Legacy Baptist in Dallas, Georgia. We are without a pastor but have just called one last week who should be beginning his ministry here by the first Sunday in November.

Last night we went to great-grand-daughter Payton’s birthday party. We have been blessed with living to see three generations of offspring.

Diane and I are both enjoying the cooler weather after a hot summer.

In the past month we have had our computer crash and our printer die here at the office. We want to say a special thanks to one of our partners who gave a large donation to cover much of the cost of the new computer. What would we do without all of our partners that God has provided.

Following is a Sampling of the E-mails We have received in the Last Few Weeks from Counselees

• “He’s a different boy today. Happy, still bouncy, but his    attitude is so much better. Thank you so much for helping us!”

• “Thank you so much for your time and help. It took me months to find someone who is a Christian who could offer wisdom, guidance, and help according to God’s Word. I feel comfortable and thankful knowing Jesus is working in the midst!.”

• “I am writing to share about integration today, it is           monumental to me. I am especially finding so much joy in how excited the alternate personalities were to see each other . And it was a “weird” wholesome and washing     experience.”

Our Local Office is Now Open Once Again for Counselees in our Area

Due to the pandemic our office at Legacy Baptist Church here in Dallas Georgia was closed since early March but we have recently began seeing area counselees there once again. Since most of our counseling is national and international we remained busy during the pandemic at our home office utilizing SKYPE.

Caution! Our Children are being Exposed to Dangers at Every Turn

Parents and caregivers beware! It is almost unprecedented the dangers our children are facing today at every turn. With our children armed with smart phones, the internet is an open door to evils never before available at a moments notice to them. The occult and pornography are destructive to them. Children are involved in sexual activities at a very young age. Know who you are leaving your child with to babysit, the dangers are unbelievable. To that end we offer a seminar titled “Children in Danger” to help educate parents etc. as to the dangers they face. Shocking but true information. For more information on scheduling a seminar for your church or group call us at 321-269-0404.

National & Int’l Counseling in the Past Seven Weeks Has Increased

The map above shows the 11 states, along with      England, in which we completed counseling sessions during the last seven weeks for a total of 119 counseling sessions during the period, an increase of 15 from the previous seven weeks Thanks again    prayer & financial partners for making this  possible.

Did You Know we are an Approved Academic Institution with the National Christian Counselors Association

That’s right! For some 25 years we have been training individuals offering courses and programs in Christian Counseling leading to licensing (not a certificate)     recognized nationally as well as degrees, Bachelor’s through Ph.D.’s in Clinical Christian Psychology, through several seminaries and colleges.

On a Personal Note

Diane and I are doing well and staying busy. I turned 75 on June 2nd and thankful the Lord is allowing me to have  health and a clear mind in order to keep serving in ministry.

A couple weeks ago Amy came for a weekend visit from Ohio and we were so  happy to be able to spend some time with her. We are expecting Amy to return yet this summer for a couple days with Zoe. Dennis, Angela, and Melissa are also planning on coming down for weekend visits in late July and August.    Always good to see children, grand’s and greats.

I had the privilege of preaching the AM service at Bemiston Baptist Church in Talladega, Alabama this past Sunday as our daughter Julie and family were on vacation. Kory is pastor of the church.

Diane is planning on going to visit with Julie a couple days this week and having some fun with Kye.

First of August I will be preaching a couple Sunday AM services at our home church, Legacy Baptist, here in   Dallas, GA. I always look forward to preaching on Sunday morning.

There are a few unspoken medical issues within our family at this time that Diane and I would ask that you pray with us about.

We pray that all our friends, prayer partners and financial partners are safe and healthy. God bless you all.

Thanks Prayer and Financial      Partners for Your Continuing        Support

Prayer partners we ask for your continued prayers as we deal with some difficult situations.

With many still out of work additional counselees are unable to pay for counseling at this time and we are even more in need and appreciative of our partners. Thanks again to all our prayer and financial partners and may the Lord receive all honor and glory.

Anyone willing to partner with us in this vital worldwide ministry should send  donations to:

Center for Christian Counseling
P.O. Box 2630
Dallas GA 30132

Or click the PayPal button on our website home page. Donations are tax deductible and you will receive a receipt for tax purposes at the end of the year.